@kell_saloks: I don't think Strange can use another spell while doing time-stop. Add in the ability to use his shield, and the fact that he can wield Thor's hammer, and Cap is just as capable as anyone. Strange did use the time stone against Thanos on Titan. Press J to jump to the feed. Related: The MCU's Next Big Villain Just Handed Thanos His Most Shocking Defeat. He used it to look at all possible futures and saw that the only way to beat Thanos required him to give Thanos Accessing the Book of Vishanti in Earth-616's universe may have not been possible at the time ofAvengers: Infinity War, or was only an option due to the Illuminati's specific members being around in Earth-838's realm. It's likely the main reason he was able to take Stormbreaker to the chest and still live. He can't control anything about time, just is independent of it. Strange himself used the time stone to trap Dormammu and his dimension in a time loop. 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Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness reveals that another group of heroes from across the multiverse defeated their world's Thanos without resorting to the over-arching plans of Infinity War. , Honestly revealing it at all is too risky he could just snap and suddenly the eye is bubbles and strange can't harness the power and then he can just walk through them either way and get it, On top of that there's nothing honestly stopping him from sending strange to the dead of space or turning him into bubbles and he an do that just as fast or faster than strangest time magic. Brandon Zachary is a Senior Writer with Comic Book Resources and has written for CBR since 2018. Contains spoilers for Avengers: Mech Strike #4! KEEP READING: Eternals' Best Twist Was Making Its Superman the Secret Villain. Plus, while we have seen Thanos used the most basic form of time manipulation but simply turning the time back, he is not a socerer so there is no gurantee he could cast/undo the higher form of spells such as time-loop. So it appearsthat Doctor Strange wanted the Snap to occur, although some fans have taken the theory even further. That attempt failed. I think he at least try it in 1/14000605 alternate futures. This would've prevented the other Eternals from finding out their true purpose and rebelling. If you are talking about MCU Dr Strange vs MCU Thanos , then Dr strange would win. I hardly doubt they will beat or undo his actions simply by physical force. Thanos should still win, although he'd have to try much harder. Indeed, Dormammu was from the Dark Dimension, an alternate world that is removed from any conventional understanding of time. It has always been evident that Doctor Strange is playing a long game at the end of Infinity War, despite its cataclysmicshort term consequences. He had no way of breaking out of a time loop. Thus,while he may not have been trying to save Earth specifically, his Snap still would've saved half the population. In Stephen Strange's MCU debut, he beat Dark Dimension rulerDormammu by trapping him in a neverending time loop, dying over and over until the demon agreed to his bargain and left Earth alone. In a random encounter, the answer is obvious. Doctor Strange would utterly wreck Thanos with his powers. Doctor Strange at regular levels can even the Mind Stone, the Time Stone, and the Soul Stone. So, if the non-time stones are independent of time, then they could theoretically be able to act outside of normal time and perhaps their combined power lacking time could give their user their independence from time. If you are talking about MCU Dr Strange vs MCU Thanos , then Dr strange would win. In infinity war , he went toe to toe with Thanos who had 4 infin Kaecilius summoned Dormamu through some kind of ritual, and that took some serious preparation. New Movie News, Movie Trailers & upcoming Movie Reviews, Avengers 4 Theory Explains Why Doctor Strange Gave Thanos the Time Stone, Thanos Action Figure May Reveal His Updated Avengers: Endgame Armor, Avengers: Endgame LEGO Set Reveals a Massive Upgrade for War Machine, Avengers: Endgame - Once Again, It All Comes Down to Ant-Man, Avengers: Endgame Toy Offers Clear Look at Iron Man's Quantum Armor, 10 Worst Written Female Characters In An Action Movie, Revenge of the Sith Almost Had a Very Different 'I Am Your Father' Reveal. There could have been a million ways to defeat thanos, but doing so in those ways may have left the stones in tact and thus a few years after thanos dies, someone else shows up and kills everyone. to Dream Walk, giving him the chance to venture across the multiverse and puppet his variants. Regardless of the reasoning, seeing this newexperience against Thanos adds a whole new perspective to how the MCU progresses over the past 14 years and what could still be lurking over the horizon. The necessary team-up between Tony Stark and Scott Lang to adapt PymTech also explains why Strange was willing to save Iron Man's life despite his earlier vow not to do so. Display of strength is not characteristic of him. In Stephen Strange's MCU debut, he beat Dark The person needs to consciously think and act to get them to do the things you want. With the supporting power from space stone, soul stone and power stone, the effects of time stone won't really help Strange to defeat Thanos. Isn't it simply explained that it needed to be the precise individuals who needed to survive (and come back with Hulk's snap)? Even if they'd cut off his arm, taken the Gauntlet, or if Strange had somehow trapped him in Dormammu's dimension, the Soul Stone would have remained loyal to Thanos, and rescued/saved/healed him from any such fate. In this flashback moment, the MCU's Illuminati defeated the iconic Marvel villainon his homeworldTitan,as the shot showed the villainwith his double-bladed sword piercing his chest. And also, it's unknown how far into the future Strange peered, as the Emergence was ready around one year after the events of Endgame, meaning he would've had to have looked pretty far into each future. With the heroes of the MCU seemingly less conditioned to the bizarre limits of the multiverse, they may not have been able to counter before it destroyed their universe in the process. Especially within his favourite franchises, such as Star Wars. WebCan Thanos beat Captain America? Strange, he immediately suggested they turn the ship around to go back to Earth rather than bringing the time stone closer to Thanos. Based on feats and logic Strange wins all rounds via time stop. If yes, how would he overcome the time loop/time freeze? While there may have been other means, the cost to the heroes (and the world as a whole) would have been too great for the Avengers to take. Could MCU Thanos with 4 stones beat Dr Strange with just time stone, without WIS/PIS? He was putting all his focus into stopping Kaecilius and then reversing time. WebThanos with 4 stones should have no problems breaking free even if strange somehow succeeds in casting a spell when he failed doing so against Maw. If he knew about this event, then he may have taken it into account when giving Thanos the Time Stone. A new fan theory for Avengers: Endgame explains why exactly Doctor Strange gave the Time Stone willingly to Thanos despite knowing the consequences. And found that his passion lays in scriptwriting, where he can combine his love of movies, writing, and storytelling. >Dr. Strange also doesn't like stark, possible he chose the first one stark dies lol. Dormammu was ignorant of the stones and how they worked and how to use them. Based in London, he oversees a global news & features team based in NY, LA and beyond. And maybe (and apologise for the cross fandom mention {HP}) Strange is only worthy of possessing one of the infinity stones and not mess up everything - but again, new Spider-Man trailer seems to imply hes not worthy of the time stone either. Allowing him to sense the passage, even within a loop, was key to wearing down his defenses(and rounding out Doctor Strange'sexploration of the fear of death). 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"Oh, we win in 1 of 14,000,000 scenarios? Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness is now playing in theaters worldwide. Many have assumed the Sorcerer Supreme is playing a long game, one that extends beyond his death at the snapof the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet after viewing over 14 million possible futures (14,000,605, to be precise) before his fight, though it is unclear how this will ultimately unfold in Avengers: Endgame. Warning! The pair bicker throughout the entire movie, but we're just supposed to believe that the Master of Mystical Arts wants to save Tony that desperately? I like the comparison when Thanos changed the piece of scrap metal that got dropped on him into some type of large dark bats and when Doctor Strange did something similar to him he was expecting something worse and got butterflies. Dormammu had no concept of time. Strange will only reset his memory after the end of each loop. On-screen stone feats only. Cap verbalizes this difference in ideology when he says that we do not trade lives when talking about destroying the mind stone. lol. When Strange reversed time in the final fight of his movie, Kaecellius and his followers broke out of the spell within few moments. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. This hints at the true cost of Doctor Strange subverting his plans from Infinity War and Endgame. Not a victory. RELATED: Doctor Strange 2 Already Proved the Most Powerful Avenger's Worst Loss Made Him Stronger. A place to discuss Plotholes, Continuity errors or even unexplained events for Movies, Books, Games, or anything else you can think of, Press J to jump to the feed. This is why I found this whole battle scenario quite interesting to think about. The mostobvious comes from those 14 million futures Doctor Strange saw; it's entirely possible thathe did attempt to use the Time Stone in one or more of them, only for it to not succeed in ultimately stopping Thanos. Ya, Ive seen one theory saying the power stone over-rules the other stones. Distractify is a registered trademark. Doctor Doom is perhaps Marvels most significant villain, so unlike the Beyonder, his future in the MCU is practically guaranteed. International political treaties are the reason why nuclear weapons are basically just expensive line items on a budget, not an actual tool of war now. Throughout the courses, he has worked on a number of short films and documentaries. They may have even ended the battle before Thanos even touched ground on Earth-838, meaning that Thanos would have been missing the Time and Mind Stones before completing the set. You may have also seen/heard him on the Total Geekall podcast, unaffiliated YouTube channels, BBC Radio and CBC News. Doctor Strange has seen Lang's role in the future, and knows Stark possesses the knowledge and technology to use the secrets of the Quantum Realm to thwart Thanos and reverse the effects of the snap by combining his resources with Hank Pym's technology. If heknew about this event, then hemay have taken it into account when giving Thanos the Time Stone. Doctor Strange uses the Time Stone to view over 14 million alternate futures to determine the outcome of their battle but is unsettled to see only one of And while he used all manner of magical spells on the Mad Titan, he seemingly never considered trying the same Dormammu time loop trick again. I feel like together, they would have prevented Thanos from obtaining the Time and Mind stone leaving Thor with the ability to cut off his head. Its a very stringent criteria for a victory. Redditor Thomascgalvin suggests that, while viewing the alternate futures, Strange came to the realization that Thanos' use of the Infinity Gauntlet's full power was a one-time only feat. Attempting to use his magic to find a better way might have set off an Incursion as well. The Avengers' battle with Thanos for the fate of the Infinity Stones was a brutal one that almost resulted in the destruction of all life in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. RELATED: Doctor Strange Is Undoubtedly the MCUs Best Babysitter. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. 13 Captain America Cap was able to hold back a nearly unstoppable Thanos with just his bare hands, an impressive physical feat. Thanos and the Avengers' interests align in Avengers: Mech Strike #4by Jed Mackay and Carlos Magno. 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